1 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:08,230 hi i'm mike massimino we've been 2 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:09,920 following along with the astronauts who 3 00:00:12,950 --> 00:00:11,280 are going to fly the next shuttle 4 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:12,960 mission to the international space 5 00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:13,920 station 6 00:00:17,750 --> 00:00:15,839 what you are about to see is the crew 7 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:17,760 practicing for their mission the team 8 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:19,760 that is responsible for training them 9 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:22,160 and get a sense of what it's like to fly 10 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:26,160 the shuttle this is sts 131 behind the 11 00:00:28,710 --> 00:00:27,680 scenes 12 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:28,720 all right 13 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:31,199 so fellas can you talk for a minute or 14 00:00:34,069 --> 00:00:31,840 do you want to just get out of the 15 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:34,079 airplane we did this is kind of historic 16 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:35,440 here right because uh i don't know about 17 00:00:38,470 --> 00:00:37,040 historic i think it is because here you 18 00:00:42,229 --> 00:00:38,480 have this airplane 19 00:00:44,549 --> 00:00:42,239 gonna fly now yeah which is a very 20 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:44,559 special airplane it is it's a modified 21 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:46,640 gulfstream business jet right and it's 22 00:00:50,389 --> 00:00:48,640 got a shuttle cockpit on the left side 23 00:00:51,590 --> 00:00:50,399 uh it's got a shell cockpit on the left 24 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:51,600 side and it's got a 25 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:53,120 regular golf stream cockpit in the right 26 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:57,910 all right and uh but the perp the reason 27 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:59,039 i'm saying this is somewhat historic 28 00:01:01,990 --> 00:01:00,719 it's not many of these flights are left 29 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:02,000 because we've only got a few flights 30 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:03,920 left right we practice these a lot you 31 00:01:06,789 --> 00:01:04,799 know we 32 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:06,799 do uh like for uh 33 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:08,240 for for a shuttle pilot to fly in the 34 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:09,920 shuttle you have to have 500 practice 35 00:01:14,710 --> 00:01:12,400 approaches 500 and for a commander yeah 36 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:14,720 jim says 500 at least i barely made it 37 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,920 really yeah 38 00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:17,280 you have to have a thousand yeah with 39 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:19,439 that how many do you have about 50 100 40 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,600 and you've got about 500. 41 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,200 approaches okay 42 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:25,119 but now there's the airplane out there 43 00:01:29,030 --> 00:01:27,280 and we're doing this at night because 44 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:29,040 you're going to land at night 45 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:31,520 maybe all right maybe maybe okay yeah so 46 00:01:33,910 --> 00:01:32,640 we're doing this at night so no one else 47 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:33,920 can see no we're doing this that night 48 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,439 because you might because you might land 49 00:01:38,830 --> 00:01:37,360 in this okay and so you're gonna fly you 50 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:38,840 know you're not gonna land with this 51 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:40,560 airplane all right you're not going to 52 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:42,560 land with this airplane right jim no no 53 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:45,680 the gulf stream is uh is a simulator all 54 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:47,759 right so we fly down to 55 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:49,200 it's a lot smaller in the shuttle all 56 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:51,360 right we take it down on approach to the 57 00:01:54,950 --> 00:01:52,960 eye height of the shuttle so i think 58 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,960 it's about 12 feet off the ground for 59 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:56,479 the gulf stream all right then we go 60 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:58,240 around we'll do about 10 practice 61 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,280 landings 62 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:01,200 uh per one session 63 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:02,320 practice approaches because you don't 64 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:03,840 actually touch down right because 65 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:04,960 because that's where that's where the 66 00:02:07,590 --> 00:02:06,240 characteristics that's where the 67 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:07,600 characteristics end is that what it is 68 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:10,239 so uh of the flying i mean they want you 69 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:12,000 to get the same eye point 70 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:13,440 okay all right the touchdown that would 71 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:15,120 be a picture that wouldn't be right i 72 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:16,560 got it so you take it as far as you can 73 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:18,000 to simulate what the shuttle's gonna do 74 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:19,440 for you so it tells you when you hit 75 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:21,120 wheels down it has a radar altimeter it 76 00:02:24,309 --> 00:02:22,640 knows exactly how high you are above the 77 00:02:25,830 --> 00:02:24,319 ground all right 78 00:02:27,670 --> 00:02:25,840 and this is like your bread and one of 79 00:02:41,589 --> 00:02:27,680 your pieces of bread and butter for you 80 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:46,949 hello sir 81 00:02:46,959 --> 00:02:54,070 hello 82 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:56,070 okay terry because i know you want to be 83 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:58,480 scared by everything jax is about to do 84 00:03:03,589 --> 00:03:01,200 to it i hear it's kind of shaky 85 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:03,599 when he fly no not at all terry what are 86 00:03:05,910 --> 00:03:04,800 you going to do here 87 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:05,920 i am 88 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:09,280 my job is the flight sim engineer and i 89 00:03:13,910 --> 00:03:11,120 essentially provide 90 00:03:17,190 --> 00:03:13,920 similar calls to decks that he hopes to 91 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:17,200 get from his private okay and other than 92 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:20,480 that i take the blame for all that he's 93 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:22,400 not happy with and i've had him for all 94 00:03:25,589 --> 00:03:24,000 that he's happy with all right so you're 95 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:25,599 there to help him learn you know get 96 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:27,519 better and keep his proficiency 97 00:03:30,789 --> 00:03:28,879 absolutely he's probably pretty darn 98 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:30,799 good right now he's just trying to keep 99 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:32,400 his skills 100 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:33,280 up 101 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:34,319 cracking 102 00:03:38,229 --> 00:03:36,319 okay 103 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:38,239 doors windows and door switches they're 104 00:03:42,400 --> 00:04:06,149 stop area is on system is checked aoan 105 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:39,590 radar is in standby 106 00:04:39,600 --> 00:05:31,350 mike you ready ready 107 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:33,350 how you doing mass good 108 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:35,039 sorry it was so dark yeah what are you 109 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:36,880 gonna do you can't control the darkness 110 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:39,039 so it happens at night yeah it gets dark 111 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:40,000 out 112 00:05:42,629 --> 00:05:41,440 get them on the ice cream 113 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:42,639 all right this i don't even know about 114 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:43,759 what's this about they don't tell 115 00:05:46,710 --> 00:05:45,120 mission specialists and stuff this is 116 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:46,720 pilot stuff jim and i have an ongoing 117 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:49,120 bed what's that and uh you know we have 118 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,479 a target touchdown airspeed okay and uh 119 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,000 you know our target touchdown air speed 120 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:56,319 is 200 knots 2009 i don't want to land 121 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:59,120 fast so my ongoing bet with jim you know 122 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:00,479 since he's got to learn to do that 123 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,840 exactly what we're going to do in case 124 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:03,360 for some reason my stick doesn't work or 125 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:06,000 i'm sick or whatever's going to be 126 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:09,120 so our target is 200 knots so our bet is 127 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:10,800 you know you got to get 128 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:14,000 on or just below 200 if you go over 129 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:15,360 you're you'll lose it's like the price 130 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:20,790 you're out well so i was two knots fast 131 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,120 i landed at 202 knots 132 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:26,000 instead of 200 and jim landed at 198 133 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:28,240 instead of 200. so delta so i think 134 00:06:35,909 --> 00:06:33,670 all right so second night in a row he's 135 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:35,919 gotten guys and you're buying i am all 136 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:37,520 right i got to buy him a little dove bar 137 00:06:41,029 --> 00:06:38,880 you know 138 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:41,039 that's about it that's okay it's so it's 139 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:42,880 the principle of the thing yeah he'll 140 00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:44,160 get it out of there he'll get it out of 141 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:46,840 the freezer for you yes how's 142 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:48,800 that all right 143 00:06:52,710 --> 00:06:50,880 all right so steve we're in the shuttle 144 00:06:53,909 --> 00:06:52,720 training aircraft yeah we were in here 145 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:53,919 last night but we couldn't see anything 146 00:06:57,990 --> 00:06:55,120 you know why 147 00:06:59,749 --> 00:06:58,000 because it was dark it's like in a cave 148 00:07:01,350 --> 00:06:59,759 yeah but now it's light out so we can 149 00:07:02,710 --> 00:07:01,360 see a little bit better do you have a 150 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:02,720 minute to explain the airplane or you 151 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:04,240 got to uh get ready to go well i do 152 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,360 because we're waiting on another 153 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:07,440 airplane take off so we have steve nagle 154 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:09,599 here former shuttle commander now okay 155 00:07:14,710 --> 00:07:11,680 so training aircraft uh instructor go 156 00:07:16,309 --> 00:07:14,720 ahead okay uh from here over on this 157 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:16,319 airplane on the right side is the 158 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:18,240 gulfstream cockpit where the gulfstream 159 00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:20,000 controls where the instructor flies the 160 00:07:26,390 --> 00:07:22,479 airplane from to set it up for the 161 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:26,400 simulation runs from this point over is 162 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:27,919 a partial recreation of the shuttle 163 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:29,120 cockpit 164 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:30,800 with the displays the med's displays 165 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:32,880 like the shuttle has heads-up display 166 00:07:36,550 --> 00:07:34,479 very similar to the shuttle a hand 167 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:36,560 controller and selected switches so it's 168 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:38,160 a partial recreation of the shuttle 169 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:39,919 cockpit what you really need for the 170 00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:41,280 landing pad 171 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:43,120 so the astronaut sits where terry is 172 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:45,440 sitting right now for the simulation 173 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:46,400 hello 174 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:48,000 the instructor boss is where i'm sitting 175 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:49,360 and where you're sitting is where the 176 00:07:53,589 --> 00:07:51,440 flight simulation engineer sits where 177 00:07:56,469 --> 00:07:53,599 terry sits when we're doing sims 178 00:07:58,070 --> 00:07:56,479 and controls this panel that interfaces 179 00:08:00,150 --> 00:07:58,080 with the computers in the back that is 180 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:00,160 the simulation okay 181 00:08:02,869 --> 00:08:02,080 so when we're flying the airplane as a 182 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:02,879 sim 183 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:07,840 you know for the starting point of the 184 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,160 dive put it in this configuration in 185 00:08:14,710 --> 00:08:12,319 which we use that switch right there to 186 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:14,720 lower the main landing gear for drag we 187 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:16,639 use that switch to deploy the thruster 188 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:18,240 versions because we do fly with trusted 189 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:20,080 versus deployed to create the same drag 190 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:22,000 in this airplane the shuttle has 191 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:23,520 and then these three switches 192 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,599 respectively turn on the autopilot the 193 00:08:29,189 --> 00:08:27,680 auto throttle and the sim 194 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:29,199 so once i've done all those five 195 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:30,400 switches 196 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:32,959 then that stick is now active and flying 197 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:35,039 the airplane so i tap the astro on the 198 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:36,800 leg that person takes the airplane and 199 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,640 flies it and from that point on through 200 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:41,039 a simulated touchdown it flies the same 201 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:42,959 trajectory as the shuttle would from 35 202 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:44,800 000 feet down to a simulated landing and 203 00:08:49,190 --> 00:08:46,640 it has the same response or handling 204 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:49,200 quality to the shuttle so this simulates 205 00:08:52,389 --> 00:08:50,720 the shuttle it's rc is a regular 206 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:52,399 airplane but it's all the things you 207 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:54,160 mentioned make it fly just like the 208 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,839 shuttle now you've one of the few people 209 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:57,920 in the world that have actually 210 00:09:02,070 --> 00:09:00,000 landed a space shuttle a couple times 211 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:02,080 right yeah and how well does this 212 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:04,000 prepare you for doing what what you did 213 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:05,360 when you were landing the spaceship so 214 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:07,440 well you know these things have paid for 215 00:09:11,350 --> 00:09:10,320 themselves many times over in my opinion 216 00:09:13,670 --> 00:09:11,360 over the 217 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:13,680 course of the shuttle program uh because 218 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:16,160 it is such an authentic good simulation 219 00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:18,320 the visual scene is perfect because it's 220 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:20,480 real yeah it's not a computer-generated 221 00:09:25,269 --> 00:09:22,480 scene you fly through the real weather 222 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:25,279 conditions the real winds and so uh by 223 00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:27,040 the time a commander has about a 224 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:28,399 thousand approaches to one of these 225 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:30,240 airplanes not to mention how many 226 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:32,000 approaches that that person has in the 227 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:34,000 ground-based simulator you know the sms 228 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:35,760 there well and the bms out in the west 229 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:37,760 coast they're well prepared to land the 230 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:39,279 shuttle so it's been been a very good 231 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:41,040 simulator uh the only place where it 232 00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:42,399 might break down a little bit is in 233 00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:44,000 turbulent air when it gets real bumpy 234 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:45,519 this airplane reacts a lot for the 235 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:48,880 turbulence more so than the shuttle rush 236 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:50,240 and then it degrades a bit but it's 237 00:09:52,870 --> 00:09:51,760 still an awfully good simulator all 238 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:52,880 right what's going on with the airplane 239 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:54,800 now what are we gonna do what's uh hurry 240 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:57,040 at home uh we're taking you some folks 241 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:58,720 home so right so we can use it as a 242 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,720 regular airplane it's a regular airplane 243 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:02,640 for this so as soon as we get going 244 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:04,480 watch 2 38 we're waiting for them to get 245 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:06,240 going in case they break we can take 246 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:08,720 them home yeah and then we'll crank up 247 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:11,120 and fly home we could go non-stop the 248 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:12,800 t-38s need to stop for gas and 249 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:14,640 stronghold maybe they'll take us 250 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:51,509 is